More Water Falls

11 08 2008

Heres another shot of the Falls , This one is an 8 image stitch .

Does anyone else find that wordpress is killing the colors of your images you post ? Iv noticed it before but only realy noticed it on this post when i had the original open in photoshop on my other computer . And all my images are saved in sRGB for the web ?

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33 responses

11 08 2008
Steve Metzner

I find that when I change the image fro RGB to sRGB I lose a lot of saturation, so after I make the change I add hue and saturation and this usually corrects the problem. Using Photoshop CS3 under Hue & Saturation I add a number of around 30. On some pic.s that is too much but I use it as a starting point. Hope this helps you. Steve

11 08 2008
Flemming Bo Jensen

Again I’m not really a waterfall man, but I reckon the other one had a more interesting composition.

I don’ post using the WordPress editor, I post using Windows Live writer, a great tool: http://get.live.com/writer/overview and this certainly just uploads the original file to WordPress, no change at all.

11 08 2008
dylanfox

Thanks again Flemming!!
Kirk I like this shot but have you gotten rid of much of the colours in the rocks and darkened the shadows in the rocks? I find it makes them look really nice.

12 08 2008
jamiepatersonphotography

Hi Dylan,

It was the way the sun was falling on the rocks, the location is in a weird angle and as the sun was falling the left hand side was falling into shadow.

Jamie Paterson

12 08 2008
Stephen Williams

you keep coming up with awesome shots hey.
i think i still prefer the vertical, but this is pretty damn good as well! that curtain of water really is great! πŸ™‚

13 08 2008
keeganwong

awesome shot Kirk, love it as a banner too!

sRGB should be correct for monitor-monitor viewing, i usually have it selected when i’m post processing in photoshop. So far my images posted seems good….

13 08 2008
Dylan Fox

All post processing in PS should be in AdobeRGB. Then convert to sRGB before uploading to the net. (I know you know that Kirk)

14 08 2008
Beau

Great image Kirk.. I like the way you’ve framed the scene.

14 08 2008
jamiepatersonphotography

Hey Kirk,

Where are all the images? Its been ages since your last one. πŸ˜‰

14 08 2008
kirkhille

Thanks Steve and Dylan ,
Yeah i do my processing in RGB then convert to SRGB for web display . Might just be internet explorer browers , Might try using firefox 3 browers as its color managed browers

14 08 2008
kirkhille

Thanks flemming , Ill check it out never new you could upload with different tools

14 08 2008
kirkhille

Thanks Steve and Keegan

14 08 2008
kirkhille

lol i just posted this 2 days ago Jamie ,
do you want a post every day πŸ˜‰

15 08 2008
Stephen Williams

i’ve noticed some images come up extremely dark on some monitors, yet are exactly how you intend them to be on others.
does anyone know why this is?? and how you get images to appear the same on all screens?
and not just on the net, i’ve noticed it even when i’ve put them onto a pc using a thumbdrive. i’ve got a mac and they look right to me on there, then on my work pc for instance, dark, and colours seem over saturated…

15 08 2008
Dylan Fox

you need to get a calibrator Stephen. This will correct you screens so they match and a colour profile for PS from you printing lab will ensure your prints look the same as your monitor!

15 08 2008
Stephen Williams

thanks Dylan.
what are these, and where do you get the calibrators? do they imprint something into the image file or something? probably dumb question but i’ve not dealt with them, or even heard of them.

thanks

15 08 2008
kirkhille

Hey Stephen ,
Monitor Calbration devices just set you monitor colors and levels to an accurate level. There just a piece of hard ware you put on your monitor that you run with some software which adjust your colors and levels displayed on screen .
Heres an artical which is about it
http://www.imagescience.com.au/ColourControl/colourProducts/monitorCalibrators.html
I think the most popular model is the spyder , but there are a lot of other makes and im sure they all do the same job .

15 08 2008
Flemming Bo Jensen

A calibrator is absolutely essential. Only way to get your prints to match what you see on screen meaning you can consistently produce excellent prints.
Getting your image to look the same on all other monitors is impossible though. There is such a huge difference between monitors and user settings. Some monitors are bright, some are dark and if it’s a laptop you can bet that the white balance is wayyyy off and much too cold producing some ugly bluish whites. Nothing you can do about that, just gotta accept that your photo online will be viewed on lots of different totally crap monitors 😦

15 08 2008
Stephen Williams

Thanks for that guys.
just had a quick look and will have a better look when i get a few spare seconds this weekend. it appears to be something more for photoshop?? i don’t really use photoshop or anything, it’s all straight from the camera. obviously loaded onto the mac and stored on it, then pulled off when needed. would a calibrator be any use under these circumstances??

yeah i had a feeling that’s what you’d say about the monitors! didn’t realize it would effect your white balance though. i have noticed some get more of a huey colour though, where there is a slight colour and then it exaggerates it.

thanks for your help πŸ™‚

15 08 2008
Dylan Fox

Stephen I would still get one or borrow one. Your camera lcd will be different to your screen also. I would do it just to know what it looks like on screen is what it will look like as a print.

16 08 2008
Stephen Williams

thanks for that.
will get in and check them out

16 08 2008
spoolphotography

I know you do not like to use PS Stephen but its almost a must for images to receive some sort of sharpening before printing.

17 08 2008
Dylan Fox

Mate it’s the digital darkroom! Look what Ansel Adams was doing.

17 08 2008
mattlauder

Love the shot Kirk… Stephen with digital there is so much you can do with the camera and push the boundary’s of exposure but you need to embrace a digital workflow. So much time and effort goes into programs like Adobe Camera RAW so digital RAW images can be processed. Your really hurting your images by skipping this process. People need to forget about Photoshop being a dirty word. It’s isnt and using Photoshop is far from cheating. If you dont have a good exposure photoshop will only take you so far.

Calibration of your monitor is essential for anyone serious about colour management and having their work printed. Doing a hardware calibration is better than doing one by eye with a chart. For more information on colour management check out the website http://www.imagescience.com.au the owner Jeremy is the master.

17 08 2008
mattlauder

Steve when you change from RGB to sRGB there should be no change. Your doing something wrong. Sounds like you are assigning the sRGB profile when you should be converting it.

17 08 2008
Steve Metzner

Thanks Matt that is exactly what I was doing. This will save me some time in the future.

17 08 2008
Flemming Bo Jensen

Even if you don’t wish to do ANY changes in post production, you should still do one thing: set the white balance. And for that you need to calibrate your screen (so that white is white and not white some blue or red in it).
Perhaps you manually set the white balance in the camera, but shooting raw and being able to finetune the white balance and hue with no loss of quality is one of digital photography’s finest features!

17 08 2008
mattlauder

Steve glad I could help but it isn’t about saving you time. It is the right process and workflow you need to be doing every time so your colour values are correctly reproduced.

18 08 2008
Dylan Fox

That was a turning point in Adams’ photography. When he looked at the location and visualised how he was going to make it look. It wasn’t how it looked in reality though. there is also a quote of his that I love because people seem to regularly ask the 17 year old photographer how much PS is done to an image. I don’t have it word for word atm but he said something along the lines of. ‘People asked me how this tree could possibly stand out that much more than the rest?’ He thought to himself “some people don’t understand that a photograph doesn’t always represent reality”

I have it in one of his books as he said but I don’t have that book with me. I will see if I can find it online!

18 08 2008
Dylan Fox

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/ansel_adams.html

Theres some quotes but the one I was looking for. I do like the Dodging and burning one though.

18 08 2008
Stephen Williams

thanks guys
gives me a few things to think about πŸ™‚

18 08 2008
spoolphotography

Thanks for the link Dylan, these two.

Yosemite Valley, to me, is always a sunrise, a glitter of green and golden wonder in a vast edifice of stone and space.
“Ansel Adams”

There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs.
“Ansel Adams”

18 08 2008
Dylan Fox

yeah that second one I really liked too!

Have been to Yosemite so I can’t say the forst one does anything for me yet.

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